Declutter to Unleash Your Creativity with Unison Frances
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Hawley Woods Grey:Today, we'll be talking to Unison Francis of Go Goddess Organizing about getting organized to make money.
Allie Ramo:We've both known Unison since before the inception of Go Goddess, and we're so excited to be sharing her business and skills with our women of wealth audience. So, Unison, to start us off, can you introduce yourself and give our listeners a little background about you?
Unison Frances:Sure. Hello. I'm Eunice and Frances. I own and operate Go Goddess Organizing down here in San Diego, California. My clients call me the guru of what's got to go go, because I lean towards the woo woo side of, how how clutter affects our our everything, how our stuff affects our stuff.
Unison Frances:And starting this business, I just wanna say, you know, a big thank you to everyone, like, at appreciation financial and things like that be because before before I was the guru of what's got to go go, I was a school teacher for 22 years. And leaving that was tough, but knowing that my retirement, my pension, everything was taken care of, and knowing my numbers was so helpful in finding in helping me follow a passion, for this next part of my adventurous life.
Hawley Woods Grey:Absolutely. Eunice and I have been friends for a very long time, and we have been through many journeys together. And one of those journeys was sitting down, reviewing her pension. I was brand new in the business. She was one of my very first clients.
Hawley Woods Grey:And, thankfully, she said yes whenever I said, hey. Can I practice on you? And, she liked what she saw, and we were able to help her out. So I appreciate you mentioning that because, you know, we did go way back. And in the very beginning, I asked a lot of my friends that are teachers to let me sit down with you and show you what we do and see if it's something that can help you as well.
Hawley Woods Grey:So let's get into it. So what does organization mean? Is it a feeling or a look?
Unison Frances:Well, it it's totally both. Now with a title like Go Goddess Organizing, I really specialize in helping women, because women are affected by clutter differently than men. And for women, it is a feeling and a look. Like, the feeling is, you know, the clarity and lightness. That's the feeling that you get, like, when you walk into, like, a hotel room that's been curated with nothing in it.
Unison Frances:Right? And then also just that look, how it affects us. We are, you know, diffuse awareness creatures going back to caveman, cavewoman. And when we see so many things that either need to be done or are distracting, it pulls our focus. So it's it's both.
Allie Ramo:So pulling your focus that can really affect your life and your business. Can you share some of those some of the ways being unorganized can affects affect people personally and professionally?
Unison Frances:Well, 100%. I mean, if if if your home's a mess, if your office is a mess, chances are your your mental clutter is is matching that. Your business is matching that. I often say, like, if your home office was an assistant or was someone that you would hire, would you enjoy working with them? What would you say on their on their, on their review?
Unison Frances:Would you say that they are a joy to work with and inspirational, or are they messy and disorganized and, you know, are just, you know, if if that was you someone who worked for you, would that work for you? And the answer to that question that you mentioned desks. Well, yeah. Like, how what is clarity of mind, clarity of desk, my desktop even, you know. So how long how when we think about, what is it, decision fatigue, you know, some of the the the great minds we know of would wear the same thing or eat the same things to cut out decisions.
Unison Frances:Because every little decision, everything is pulling energy, pulling pulling from us. Right? So if we are looking for that right pen all the time or looking for that piece of paper, you know, or cataloging where that is in our head. Oh, I know my desk is a mess, but I know where everything is. Oh, that's pulling your energy.
Unison Frances:That's pulling your energy. Focus. I like to think of how I got started in this is, is I'm a songwriter and I always used to say my muse is a snob. She needs a deadline and a clean surface to work from. She needs a clean area because I get pulled, I get distracted.
Unison Frances:Maybe I'm ADHD too, like, oh, squirrel, oh, pillow. But I can't focus on something if everything around me isn't where it needs to be. So instead of surrounding ourselves with, you know, triggers, let's surround ourselves with glimmers, just things that light us up. You know? It feels so different when, you know, we have things on our desk that we love, you know, our favorite water bottle, you know, versus, you know, oh my gosh.
Unison Frances:I can't find, you know, anything. So I yes. The answer is it really affects your business. How much time, time, energy, money, for sure.
Hawley Woods Grey:Yeah. No problem. Say are some of the most common organization challenges you see women face other than their desk, of course?
Unison Frances:I think the big ones that I see women facing are the fact that women really can do it all, so they try to do it all, and they don't have to do it all. So there's so much going on that almost nothing gets done. You know? And then we analysis paralysis too is another big one. Like, oh, I don't know I don't I don't know anything about paperwork.
Unison Frances:I'll say this. You know? I don't know anything about my finances, my retirement. So you like, you're an ostrich and you put your head in a hole instead of getting the help, getting the support. You don't have to be the one who knows everything.
Unison Frances:You can look to advisors and and people who can help you, but get your head out of the hole and hold yourself up high and figure it out. So knowing how to knowing what papers you do need to keep, knowing where you should keep them, and holding yourself to that, coming up with a system that really supports you on that instead of instead of just, oh, I think I I should have been keeping all my receipts, so I'm gonna shove them in a bag and do nothing with it and 5 years later, you still got a bag of receipts. You know, find out. Your intuition is an amazing guide. It's just like, what is that thing that keeps coming up in that mental catalog of yours?
Unison Frances:Like, mine the other day was, I should be using my credit card that has the highest point return. Which one is it? And I just thought of that a few times instead of, like, just pulling out random credit cards from my wallet. I was like, which one has the highest points? Which one am I getting the most rewards from?
Unison Frances:It took me 7 minutes. I timed myself 7 minutes to, like, log on, find out. I'm like, oh, and then I just put a little, like, heart on that card. I'm like, that's the one you use to get the most points. Let's go to Bahamas.
Unison Frances:You know, it's just little things. Feel your intuition. You wanna go to Bahamas?
Allie Ramo:I love that. Well and it it sounds like there's a theme here of the analysis paralysis and decision fatigue that both have scenarios that you're making decisions for. Because the analysis paralysis is you've got too many decisions to make, and so you just don't make any. And then decision fatigue is in the is in the same boat. And I think it's really interesting that you talk about physical things too because we're in the digital age.
Allie Ramo:So something I struggle with personally is my photos in my phone that they are like, half of them, I probably don't care about and will never be looking for, but yet they sit in this black hole on my phone. Can you talk about, how people can declutter? Do you use any certain tools to declutter digitally?
Unison Frances:The answer is there's an app for that. There's an app for that. I'm sure I don't know the photo one, off the top of my head, but there is, like you know, there's a there's an app for, calling your your, your apps or your pictures on your phone. But I do use a few apps that I really like, to help with clutter. One is paper karma.
Unison Frances:A lot of my, my clients are senior citizens, and they seem to be on every mailing list known to man. I mean, they're getting so much mail daily that it just piles up. And so paper karma is one where you can scan you can scan the address, and it'll pull you off of the mailing lists. So I really like that one. I'm gonna talk a little bit more about mail because that is something that I like to do.
Unison Frances:I don't check my mail daily. I only check my mail when I know I have time to deal with it because the mailbox is a great place to store things until you have time to deal with it. And then I set aside time. Okay. Now it's time to go through it.
Unison Frances:And then even before I get into my door, I I sit by the recycling can and, like, half of this isn't even worth worthy of my space, you know? And then and then I'll I'll go through with Paper Karma, take myself off some lists, and then go through the the latest food and wine magazine that I wanted to read. That's it. Another app that I use, mostly because I have a service based business, you might like this too, Everlance. So it is always running in the background and it tracks my mileage for me.
Unison Frances:So, I don't have to think about it until, like, one day a month. I I set myself down and say, oh, I did have an appointment that day. Where did I go? Oh, there's my mileage. Great.
Unison Frances:There it is. So those help me out small business wise. There's always a tool. So one of my friends said recently, it's not how. Don't figure out how to do something.
Unison Frances:It's who who can help you. A lot of times it's an app or an AI these days or a person. So instead of spreading ourselves so thin like women so often do, especially small business owners, let's find the resources. Let's use our web. Let's use our let's use our vast our superpower of women and, and get it done together.
Hawley Woods Grey:Absolutely. So it sounds like you have some great digital tools to put in place. What are and also some physical tools to put in place, like, with your mail. But what are some other practices that you habitually use daily, weekly, or monthly to keep you organized as a wife, business owner, mother of 2?
Unison Frances:I have 2 kids? Oh my god. Yeah. No.
Allie Ramo:Yes.
Hawley Woods Grey:Siblings, you know, your father's getting older, all those things.
Unison Frances:I know. Everything. Right? That's the thing. We have this, like even though we're out doing all of these other things, it's like the home responsibility still oftentimes fall to the women.
Unison Frances:And so one practice that I have is I just have a buy buy box in the, in the garage. It is nothing special. It is just whatever Amazon box came. And if I see something in my home that's outlived its welcome, it goes in the buy buy box. Now am I allowed to pull things out of the buy buy box?
Unison Frances:Of course, I am. I can do whatever I want. But when that box is full, I send it to the goodwill, you know, and I really look at my things through the lens of is this worthy of being in my space. I don't live in the biggest home, but I love where we are and so I want this home to work with us. And so I've set boundaries, you know, like natural boundaries of the house.
Unison Frances:This is the cabinet that my cups can fit in. If I am trying to squeeze more cups in there than fit, something has got to give. So looking at the natural boundaries of a space, you know, buying more plastic bins is not the answer. Looking at what you have and and and then as I pull out cups and glasses, there's always something that I'm willing to get rid of. So just like shedding, shedding is very important.
Unison Frances:And, yeah, those are that's kind of the lens. I I look at things through mental energy, physical energy, and emotional energy. Like, is it taking any of that from me or is it giving it to me?
Hawley Woods Grey:How do you support your children in that process? Okay. Because my son seems to never wanna let go of any of his Legos, so we tend to have, like, a 1000000 Legos, and he does play with them. He uses them regularly, but really, he cannot use a 1000000 Legos.
Unison Frances:Okay. So if Legos are, like, his only thing that he's hanging on to, let that be the thing that he absolutely loves and hangs on to it. Like, it could be a lot worse. You know? Legos are are fantastic.
Unison Frances:But I grew up. I'm Gen z I'm Gen x too. And one thing that that I kind of remember, love my parents, but it was like, go to your room, clean your room. And there was, like, no guidance in it, and it was a punishment. You know?
Unison Frances:Clean your room. Don't come out of here until don't come out of there until your room is clean. And so there's an association with that almost, like cleaning my room is a punishment. And it's not. Like, now when I clean my room and I feel so good when it's clean.
Unison Frances:Right? So I'm trying to instill that in my children. Like, you deserve to live in a clean space. Do you want to clean it all the time? No.
Unison Frances:Nobody wants to clean their room all the time, but it is on the reverse how it feels. My sons have a lot of plastic little toy crap things and they just do. It, like, I don't know how it comes in the house, like birthday parties, school things, like, I don't know. And so we have set up, like, little they have, like, bins and things in their room. And one of my youngest son often says to me, mom, will you help me clean my room?
Unison Frances:And I say, yes. Of course, I will. Let's do it. And I try to make it fun. It's not a punishment.
Unison Frances:And I surprised they they really surprised me this Christmas. Before Christmas, I said, we gotta clear some stuff out so that there's room for they've been good this year. They weren't gonna get any coal, I was pretty sure. So stuff was gonna come in. I said, let's make room for what's what's what's gonna come in that's new.
Unison Frances:And they they got rid of a lot more than than I thought they would. And, so just sitting with them and going through the process, and they're they are at stages where they outgrow things faster than I think my mama heart thought. I'm like, oh, you're 7 and 8. Oh, oh, you're done with the all the board books are gone. Right?
Unison Frances:Okay. Well, I'm gonna keep a few in the you know? Like, that one's really special to me. So just watching and and encouraging them to shed.
Hawley Woods Grey:Yeah. We do that. I think we need to do it more often because I think the twice a year isn't enough for our situation. But you're right about those little gifts that they get from birthday parties or from, like, Dave and Buster's or something like that. It's like, how many snap bracelets do you really need?
Hawley Woods Grey:And they don't even work after the first, you know, hour of playing with them anyway. So Well,
Unison Frances:and that's that's really interesting just to watch how it is about the procurement or the getting of the item. Oftentimes, that's the excitement. And then do we even need to bring that home? You know? Like, hey.
Unison Frances:Yeah. You just got 78 tickets or whatever it took to buy that thing. Is that where is the joy? Is the joy in that or is the joy in the thing bringing home? Because, gosh, we are adding so much plastic to our landfills, and I swear it's all Dave and Buster's and Chuck E.
Unison Frances:Cheese's fault.
Allie Ramo:I I am really hap like, my niece and nephew, I watched them this last year. My sister did the exact same thing as you. And and I went to their house one day, and there was just, like, chaos by their front door. And I'm like, what is happening? And she goes, that's their toy room that they're getting rid of.
Allie Ramo:Like, it was all the things, and I was like, oh my heart. It made me feel so good. And to walk into their toy room, and, like, it just felt that like, it felt different than had I come over 2 months prior, and it was like a hurricane went through there. So I can but to get back to, like, women in business, I can totally see how that translates. I mean, right now, I'm looking at my desk, and it looks like a hurricane happened on my desk.
Allie Ramo:But like you said, I do know where 95% of the things are. But when I do clean it up and I do organize, like, the paperwork into files, whereas, like, this is a to do file or, like, this is a done file, I do feel less, like, anxious or like that I have things on my plate, even though I may have the same number of 2 things on my to do list, but my desk just gives me a different feeling. So I really like that. You know, I think it is part of the, you know, analysis paralysis of and I like your mailbox. Like, I think that you're it's like it's such an easy storage space that we don't think about you.
Allie Ramo:No one's making you pull from your mailbox every day. The mailman doesn't care. So why don't we kind of utilize our spaces the same way? So I'm curious, do you have any organizational tips that women business owners, as far as, like, organizing their business, whether it's files or books or something like that, Do you have, do you have, like, a resource? Do you use Pinterest to get ideas from things?
Allie Ramo:Do you have sort of, yeah, a resource for women to organize their office space or their place of business?
Unison Frances:I I wanna talk you said 2 things real quick, and I I just I wanted to say the back to the kids, the clarity will promote creativity. You know, if we have 27 coloring books and you have to, like, dig through the coloring books to find the one you want, the kids aren't gonna color. But if you have one coloring book, they're gonna color. You know, so clarity equals creativity and that is what I feel equals women in business too. Maybe sometimes searching for all the tools and the the office supplies and things like that is not the answer.
Unison Frances:It's the clarity of mind that is going to create the the most amazing business idea. You know? So I I think that our biggest our biggest our biggest tool is is sitting on the top of our heads, and we need to use that more. Another thing that I love for women in business is, like, you'd mentioned a to do list or having a lot of to do things. I have a to do ta da list, and it is I'll show you.
Unison Frances:So here's an example of it. So it just says to do ta da. Right? And then here we write down to do, what is that task? And then when it is done, instead of just crossing it out on the ta da side, right, like, what that did for your business, what that did for you today.
Unison Frances:And it's amazing how our tasks our little tasks transform into, like, oh, wow. Wow. Okay. I posted on social okay. Post on social media today.
Unison Frances:You know? But, no, I am growing a following. I am going to I'm changing the world. People are watching what I'm doing. You know?
Unison Frances:And it it feels good. So that's, I mean, you know, an easy thing. You can do that with any piece of paper or you could do it. My gosh. What is this?
Unison Frances:So or you could do it in the planner, you know, that I created. I think July might be home offices, so you gotta jump in with me on a planner before then. But we're doing paperwork in March, paperwork and digital in March. And I would say breaking it up into small, small manageable chunks and just doing a little when you can. Like, I hope this this podcast inspires people that when they're hearing it, while they're listening, they can clean off their desk.
Unison Frances:You know, you could while you're, like, watching your favorite TV show, you could be going through a drawer. It's not it doesn't have to be all time consuming to to get a little bit more organized.
Hawley Woods Grey:Yeah. I think that's a really great point because recently, you know, we moved into this big house, and we haven't filled it all up yet, but I'm doing a pretty good job with it. So there was some areas that were kinda like landing areas for, like, Jackson School stuff. It was just kinda stacked up. Wasn't really in the way.
Hawley Woods Grey:But recently, I went through all of that stuff and got rid of it because, I mean, some of it was from when we first moved here. It was in, like, 2nd or 3rd grade. It's like, I definitely don't need those spelling words anymore. Either knows how to spell them or he doesn't, but now he pretty much types everything, so it's in spell check. You know what I mean?
Hawley Woods Grey:So I think that that's really powerful. I wanna also talk about another thing that I think, business owners, especially females, fall into with their cars. So, usually, us female business owners, we might be commuting a lot. We might be in our car a lot. It can turn into, like, our on the go office.
Hawley Woods Grey:So do you have any tips, or do you have, like, any boundaries in that area that you could share with the group?
Unison Frances:I do. Thank you. I fall into that same category. I see clients, I have 2 appointments a day, 1 in the morning and 1 in the afternoon. I have a big break in the in the in the around lunchtime, and, I am in my car all the time.
Unison Frances:So I splurged $19 a month on an unlimited car wash package, and I got it for a place that's, like, near the, the goodwill donation drop off that I really like to go to. And, because I also drop off for my clients. Right? So so I go there and I vacuum out my car and I make sure, like, the front of the car, like, the place where, like, we ride in the car I have a big Toyota Highlander. My car is clean and it feels good to me.
Unison Frances:And then, so I do that probably once every 2 weeks, if not once a week. I go get my car wash and there is something about I don't I love water. Water is like, there's something about I'm a fire sign, but for some reason, I love car washes and showers and baths, the ocean. But being in the car wash, like, with the lights and the sound, I don't know. It's a treat for me.
Unison Frances:So so I treat it as, you know, a moment of joy and, and I'm taking care of a possession that really helps me out and supports me. So taking care of my car, keeping it clean, emptying the trash out. Now you're probably talking about files and things in the car too.
Hawley Woods Grey:I almost could be, but I'm not necessarily talking about that. I'm talking about, like, how it becomes the mobile trash can, how it becomes the mobile you know, like, you're for me, personally, I take my kid to school in the morning, and then Bobby picks my husband picks him up in the afternoon. However, in between there, I might be at a school. I might have a lunch in that day. I might have a box of chips in the back of my car for 3 weeks because I just didn't take the time to open it up and move it to somewhere else.
Hawley Woods Grey:You know what I mean? So it's like, for me, it's not necessarily the files because I learned a lesson on that. A long time ago, I had a car broken into, and they stole something out of my car, which was no value to them but was major value to me, which was my weight watchers book. I mean, I had all the little stamps in it. I had all my recipes, and it didn't make a big deal for me.
Hawley Woods Grey:But, like, in my business, I can't leave files in my car because somebody steals those, that's somebody's information. Somebody's Social Security number could get stolen. So in my business, that's not really a problem for me, and I hope it's not for any of my agents either because that's a big deal. But I'm talking more about how it just becomes like, oh, I just ate on the run, so now there's a bag of whatever food I ate or, you know, oh, there's, like, some dirty spoons or forks in there if I did my meal planning and all that. So I was talking more about that kind of stuff.
Hawley Woods Grey:I love that idea of having the the wash, the automatically go 2 weeks every 2 weeks. You know? Just put it in your calendar or just, you know, put it as a priority for yourself. I like that a lot.
Unison Frances:It has to be. It has to be you have to start thinking of, like, that as a tool and you have to, like, sharpen your tools to keep your tools clean and things like that. And then, I mean, I've I've gotten in friends' cars before and there's times when I have, you know, a few Starbucks cups lined up and it just happens. I'm a beverage goblin. So, you know, that kind of thing, it does pile up and it feels different.
Unison Frances:It feels different. And, you know, kids, they have no filter. I have I've picked up some some of my, my boys' friends
Hawley Woods Grey:and they're like, your car is a mess. You're like, yes, it is.
Unison Frances:Yeah. Today, it is. Today, it is. And know and giving yourself grace and ease too because some days your car is gonna be a mess and then you go and get it washed. You know, it's just it's a season too.
Unison Frances:So, but if, like, your kids are leaving stuff in your car all the time that, like, for us, you know, some days I back in and then open up the garage door and that's when they put their stuff away. Zion's got his soccer bag constantly. And you have we have to keep it out because we use 2 different cars just like you. So it's like
Allie Ramo:Mhmm.
Unison Frances:Dad left and he has your soccer bag, what's gonna happen? You know? So it is teaching responsibility too.
Allie Ramo:I love that your car wash is also next to the goodwill that you're, like, periodically going to just because you're you're dumping either your stuff or your client's stuff. So then it's not that you have to even think like, oh, I gotta go get my car wash. It's like, okay. Goodwill car wash.
Unison Frances:And car wash, nail place, and Panera. So it's like it's a little, like, you know, hour of self, like, indulgence.
Allie Ramo:Yeah.
Hawley Woods Grey:It's a trifecta.
Allie Ramo:Something something I also do is I have a mini trash can that goes in a cup holder, and it's it goes in, like, the passenger door cup, cup holder. I don't usually have passengers because I've got, like, the middle console and the door cup holders. So when I have, like, gum wrappers or whatever, it goes in the little trash bag and the or little trash can. And then every time I go to the get gas, which is often because I'm driving around San Diego County all
Hawley Woods Grey:the time Yeah. Yeah.
Allie Ramo:That I just empty that trash can. And so that keeps the little, like, wrappers and things like that. But I drink out of a hydroflask water bottle, so I don't have the water bottle issues. But I've definitely gotten in cars where the water bottles and that's not gonna fit in the mini trash can.
Hawley Woods Grey:Yeah. That happens sometimes for me. I have to, like, pull over, get gas, and and dump, like, 2 or 3 water bottles because I just, like you know? Sometimes I use my my, water or my plastic conservative, water bottle, and sometimes I'm on the go and just grab what I can.
Unison Frances:Okay. I just wanna say that I love, like, just the, conversation around our cars and how we have 3 different systems and 3 different things because everyone is personalized. So anything we're gonna say today might work or it might not work, but it's all about find finding what actually works for you and, and creating, like, joy or a system or reward. What really does work for everyone individually because we are all so, so different.
Hawley Woods Grey:So before we get to that lightning round, which we're almost to, I just wanna ask you about your system for cleaning out closets, clothes, like hanging clothes, clothes that go in drawer drawers. I mean, I have my own system. However, I think I could use some assistance on that as well.
Unison Frances:Okay. So people okay. If if you know me, if you've seen me out and about, I have a wild wardrobe. And people are always saying, oh, your closet must be so amazing. And the real thing is I have a very small closet that I actually share with my husband.
Unison Frances:So it is all about just curating, like, exactly what you love and holding on to the things that make sense for you. Now, what is worthy of taking up our space? Right? Have you seen, like, when the closet world, they show their ads for it and it's, like, before and it's crammed full of, like, everything and then show after and it's, like, got 5 shirts hang hanging and and 3 pairs of pants and you're, like, come on. And they're all neutral colored.
Unison Frances:You're, like, that is not that is not real. It's not real, but we are responsible for what is worthy to be in our space. So for me, I've changed sizes. Right? I'm not the only one.
Unison Frances:Every like, people grow. They shrink. And there are some clothes I'm like, oh, I don't wanna get rid of those. I'm gonna fit back into those. Okay.
Unison Frances:Fine. But they don't need to be a daily reminder in my closet. If the pants are 2 sizes or more smaller than what I am right now, I don't need to look at them. They bring up, like, you know, guilt or whatever, shame. So those go in a box, they go in the garage.
Unison Frances:Great. When the weight watchers thing kicks in, great. Let's pull those out. Let's go shopping. But I don't need to be daily reminded.
Unison Frances:What I need to do when I open up my closet is see every opportunity of joy that I want to dress today. I organize by sleeve length and, like, you know, because everything in my it looks like a clown threw up in my closet, so it's not by color. Not so terrible. It's by sleeve length and, and then I, you know, same thing by by weight. So sleeve length, short sleeve, no sleeve, long sleeves, sweaters, and then I have gowns.
Unison Frances:I have an insane amount of gowns. I need to go lay on a top of pianos a lot more often than I do apparently for all my sequin gowns that I own.
Hawley Woods Grey:And then shoes?
Unison Frances:You know what, Holly? I don't wear as many heels as I used to, and they all found wonderful homes, I'm sure, with women who are wearing them. You know? So I have shoes. I keep them pretty organized.
Unison Frances:I actually I have this tray from IKEA that, like, pulls out. They don't make it anymore, but I just helped a client who was really into shoes do a whole top shelf of shoes with, they're clear plastic containers, but they open so you can pull out the shoes. It looked gorgeous. That's amazing. I don't fold my pajamas or workout clothes.
Unison Frances:I have bins. I'm gonna show you the bins.
Allie Ramo:So you're gonna need to if you're listening to this, you're gonna have to watch it on YouTube so you can see it.
Hawley Woods Grey:Okay. You can show us you can show us. I'll I'll describe it. So these are very colorful, fun bins. You probably got it at, I don't know, maybe at the At
Unison Frances:the container store. You know? Container store. Because I don't have I actually don't have drawers. So all of my clothes fit in the closet.
Allie Ramo:Oh,
Hawley Woods Grey:no. Okay. I have
Allie Ramo:So those were her those were her pajamas?
Hawley Woods Grey:Pajamas. Her pajamas and her workout clothes go in these. They're kinda like cloth bins.
Unison Frances:This is the only T shirts I owe. They're all folded. Nice. This is they're folded in the Marie Kondo style.
Allie Ramo:I noticed.
Unison Frances:Even. You can see the T shirts. Not one white, not one plain T shirt in the box. Right?
Hawley Woods Grey:The reason why I asked Unison about shoes is because we had one night I was married. She wasn't married yet. She was in search of. And we went out. We had a few beverages, and then we thought it was gonna be a great idea to drive to Vegas.
Hawley Woods Grey:The one from who wasn't drinking. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Drive to Vegas.
Hawley Woods Grey:Right? Okay. And then, we made it all the way to Hesperia. And then when we got to Hesperia, we decided we were gonna go the next day to back back home, and there's this spa along the way. It's called Glen Ivy.
Hawley Woods Grey:It's like a mud bath and all that kind of stuff. Unison brought tons of shoes for us and bathing suits, and that's it. Basically, if we would've made it to Vegas, we would've had to go shopping for sure.
Unison Frances:All we have, bathing suits and high heels.
Allie Ramo:That's all you need for Vegas.
Hawley Woods Grey:Thank you. It was the middle of the winter. Well, yeah. Anyway, it was fun.
Unison Frances:That's why
Hawley Woods Grey:I was asking her about her shoes. It's so fun. It's so fun. Alright. Alright.
Hawley Woods Grey:Well, let's get to that lightning round.
Allie Ramo:Alright. Lightning round. So quick answers. Do you cash or credit?
Unison Frances:I love credit because you can track it, you know, your expenses. And like I said, points, you go to the Bahamas. You pay it off every month, you're great. But you get those points and you have that record of what you spend your money on.
Allie Ramo:Real estate or stocks?
Unison Frances:Both diversify.
Allie Ramo:If you want a $1,000,000 today, what would be the first thing you do with the money?
Unison Frances:1st, I wouldn't tell anybody. What's a $1,000,000 these days, you guys? Right.
Allie Ramo:A down payment on a new business.
Unison Frances:Okay. Okay. Yeah. I guess I would have to do some research and contact a lawyer. That's what I would do.
Hawley Woods Grey:There you go. Well Enter your business.
Allie Ramo:Yes. What's a fun impulse buy you've recently had?
Unison Frances:Okay. It wasn't an impulse buy. It was a gift. I mentioned in a live that I did that I am your decluttering cheerleader, and a client sent me some hot pink pom poms. Oh, those are cute.
Unison Frances:I mean, on brand or what. Right?
Allie Ramo:So cute. What is a money saving tip money saving tip you swear by?
Unison Frances:If you feel like you need something, put it in the cart for a day or 2 and just sit on it and see if, like, just, you know, no impulse buys, like, as you said. I don't I I buy things intentionally. So I think about it for a day. Sorry. This is turning into not lightning, but think about it for a day and then see if you have something that will work instead.
Unison Frances:Really fun.
Allie Ramo:What's your biggest financial fear?
Unison Frances:That my husband will die, that no one needs an organizer, that my rentals burn to the ground. I mean, you know what? Obviously, everything's kinda taken care of, really. Like, I don't have a lot of financial fears that are I mean, those sound big, but
Allie Ramo:Hey. In California, having rental houses burned down, that's a real fear. Yeah. Seriously. Okay.
Allie Ramo:What's a, what's your biggest financial goal for the next year?
Unison Frances:I want to sell a 1,000 planners.
Allie Ramo:Okay. Let's help her with that Unison that
Hawley Woods Grey:we can find you. Yeah. Tell us how we can find you.
Unison Frances:Well, we're gonna send put some links in here, but this is the 2025, the year she let it go planner, the decluttering with grace and ease, one room at a time. It's on Amazon. Do impulse buy this. Okay?
Allie Ramo:I love it. I bought this from Unison at our last, e women event, and it's so cool. I was looking through it and I'm like, okay. What friends wanna do this with me? I'm still looking for friends who wanna do it with me.
Allie Ramo:So if you're out there, let me know.
Unison Frances:Yeah. We usually have the community that you can join. Yeah. We I have a community that goes along with it, and I can be your friend.
Allie Ramo:Okay. Okay. Well, we need to talk then. But I love it. It goes it goes week by week, small things, so it's not overwhelming.
Allie Ramo:It's super realistic. And like Unison, you said earlier about you can do things while you watch TV. It really does it's a baby steps thing, and it's all about the small habits that you create. And so this is a really good guide to create those habits.
Hawley Woods Grey:And I would recommend going on a roadshow with E Women. Unison, you'll sell more than a 1,000 if you do that. I went to every one of Sandra's, summits, in 2023, and it helped me make a lot of money. I got so many affiliates from that. I had over 600 people join my team.
Hawley Woods Grey:And if I had something physical I was selling, I probably would have easily sold a 1,000 of them. I love that. Talk more about that.
Unison Frances:Okay. Great.
Hawley Woods Grey:Thank you so much, Unison. This was so fun. I learned a few things. I got some new apps to download, and I just really appreciate you being open. I love what you're doing, and I think everybody, has room in their, life to have some decluttering going on.
Hawley Woods Grey:So thank you.
Unison Frances:I Think so too. And, oh, and this is 2025. It's the year of the snake. It's the year to shed.
Hawley Woods Grey:Oh, good.
Allie Ramo:It's your year.
Hawley Woods Grey:I like that. The year to shed. Year to shed. Thank you so much.
Allie Ramo:Thank you for joining us on this week's episode.
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